Science policy, from agreements to declarations, ultimately affects ordinary scientists and citizens, and can determine whether problems are addressed.

Jacqueline McGlade is both a professor and the wife of the chief of the Maasai tribe in Kenya, and speaks to the divide between big decisions and practical realities.

We hear from the people making the big decisions with exclusive interviews with South African Minister of science and technology, Grace Naledi Pandor, and the Commissioner for Human Resources, Science and technology at the African Union, Prof Sarah Anyang Agbor.

Later, Eva Alisic, Senior Research Fellow at Monash University Australia, explains how the Sustainable Development Goals are going to be achieved.

In Unscience we find out if sheep can recognise celebrities’ faces.

The Science Inside is presented by Elna Schütz and DJ Keyez. Our production team is Gabriel Chemhuru with technical production by Kutlwano Serame. Original concept by Paul McNally.

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